Bob Dylan on Sam Cooke

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I seldom find myself thinking in terms of “truth” when it comes to Sam Cooke. Even in his many early gospel recordings one has to believe the message to find any truth in them! I accept his music at face value and generally don’t look for truth.

When he sings of the men on the “Chain Gang” I’m not looking for truth in lyrics as much I am looking for a well crafted song designed to be a hit!  “Cupid” is essentially a plea- “to shoot the one he desires with their arrow so she comes to him”.

In “Having A Party” and “Twistin’ The Night Away”  there’s talk of “Coke’s in the icebox and popcorn on the table” or a happening place in New York where they dance the twist! I’m not looking for truth. I’m’ looking for a good time-if only in my mind  as I picture the images.

With Bob Dylan though I do look for truth. Without truth, early -and then later Dylan would NOT EXIST! However early Dylan was folk music and folk demands truth -or triviality! Of course the events of “1913 Massacre” took place but it was Woody’s song and he did it better . Any “truth”  had to be attributed to Woody and not Bob. Woody does take some liberties in this. “I Ain’t Got No Home (in this world anymore)” is a great Carter Family song from the 1920’s that Woody stole-and quite effectively as many did NOT have homes during the depression and dust bowl times of his life!  But as for Dylan–nice but unbelievable.

Dylan’s “truth” comes from events of his lifetime. “The Lonesome Death of Hattie Carroll” and “Ballad of Hollis Brown” are great examples of songs that, without truth, fail!

And yet folk music lends to lore. Lore that is not always based on fact  but often legend. Myth and tales told around a fire or a circle. Woody, Sam and Bob all understood this and put this into thier repotrioir! A song about “Peggy-O”, “Buffalo Gals”, “East Virginia” or “They Call the Wind Maria”  needs no truth. They and many like them only needed the listener to temporary believe in the tale being sung. Not in truth itself.

All three were protest singers and in that regard truth was essential! Sam, however died before he could make much of an impact in the world of protest but his “A Change is Gonna Come” is a accurate today, MLK Day 2020, as it was when he first sang it. A change needs to come! A revolution needs to take place!

Dylan perfected WHAT a protest song was. Then he stepped away from them and let other voices be heard. And there were many!  However if one listens to them seldom do they deviate much from the tenets that Bob set down! What sets them apart is substance,   style and topic.

As for Woody his entire life was a protest song in action. He exposed the hypocrisies of the US. the world, it’s leaders and in the US he spoke of injustices and became the lyrical voice for the common man just as much as Steinbeck was the literary voice of the same people. Woody took a flawed democracy and a failed republic and turned both on their backside and exposed the ugly truth of them!

Truth!

The entire point of this comes full circle. And that asks the question: Do we need to believe in the voice–or do we need to believe in the MESSAGE of the voice? If we believe in truth what is the truth each of us chooses TO believe in???

“The day we see the truth and cease to speak is the day we begin to die’ –Martin Luther King, Jr.

 

5 thoughts on “Bob Dylan on Sam Cooke


  1. I accept his music at face value and generally don’t look for truth.

    With Bob Dylan though I do look for truth. Without truth, early -and then later Dylan would NOT EXIST

    They and many like them only needed the listener to temporary believe in the tale being sung. Not in truth itself”

    Well said, although i’m a bit curious here, like what brought this up? what was on your mind when and before you wrote this piece? what triggered the whole idea? your state of mind and all.

    As for your lost question..i’m not sure i got the answer right now, (still feel a bit numb maybe that’s why) or .maybe i just need to give it a thinker.

    I need to to give Woody another chance so if you could recommend some of his finest songs three of them for now will be great.

    You know how i feel about both Dylan and Sam, Chain Gang is MY favorite of his..and maybe one of my favorite songs of all time!

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    • To answer that let us look at the essence of the quote. Few can argue that Sam Cooke is the founder of soul music”. Of course that is subjective and the argument comes from those with less and more education on soul and the history of it.

      Bob is far form the founder of Folk but Bob learned well form Woody before him. Folk traces back long before Woody. But bob is one of the most iconic and legendary performers of my time. I would not have imagined a time when these two performers even met. Much less believable is what Bob said and the solemn reply San gave.

      It’s a dictomony! A contradiction. Soul and Folk. Blues and well, blues. It would be as odd as if Elvis would have said to Mick Jagger. “Your singing voice is very good. iuI love that it is original” . the egomaniac Elvis was he would never say that–even if he thought it!

      The dissertation comes form the need to dissect the quote a bit further and let it take it’s course.

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